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Friday, January 1, 2010

17th edition of the Carnival of Irish Heritage & Culture Irish Treasures





 

 I am glad to participate in the Irish Carnival.  It is a break in my family focus, but I know it is no fun to throw a party and no one comes.  Besides, I have such a soft spot for the Irish.  My mom and dad always said "we're Irish, well, a wee bit of Irish...back in the 1800's.  Back to the purpose of the Carnival, treasures regarding my Irish family the Magills.  A family bible, I found after many dry years of searching, and wonderful land records available through the BLM GLO.










My mother's father and grandmother had died by the time my mother was 2.  Her mom, mother of 13, had her hands full with raising the six left at home, and did not share a lot of family history.  When these records were found, it was a treasure to her and her family also.
When my mother told me her grandmother's name was Magill, I was intrigued, after all, I was told we were Irish.  I easily found the book on the Magills written by Robert Magill, but could not find a tangible connection to my Magill.  A cousin of my mother, a Ralph Magill, let me know that Elizabeth Jane Magill was married to Joseph Lester Magill.  He sent me a copy of a letter he had received from a Magill saying he was related.  I studied the Dear Caleb letter.  I believe every Magill in America has read it. I was sent in all directions by it but not to Clark Co. Illinois where my ancestor died.   By process of elimination and places, and times, I had decided upon the parents for my ancestor Joseph Lester Magill who had died in the 1840's.  He was born in Tennessee.  I found  Charles Magill married Elizabeth Lester in Oct 24 1796.  This became my logical focus. Then came the search for proofs I needed to have to make it so. 
I went to Ancient Irish naming patterns. Irish Naming Patterns, gives a basic pattern as listed below, although depending on circumstances these would some times vary.  So, I guess I could also say the Irish naming patterns is a treasure too.
Oldest son named after the Father's father
2nd son named after the Mother's father
3rd son named after the Father
4th son named after the Father's oldest brother
Oldest daughter named after the Mother's mother
2nd daughter named after the Father's mother
3rd daughter named after the Mother
4th daughter named after the Mother's oldest sister

Joseph Lester Magill's apparent oldest son who appeared on the 1850 census was named after him.  The Daughter Elizabeth Jane could be after either the mother of John or Sarah.  They were both Elizabeth.
The apparent second son was John Davidson Magill which was the  name of Sarah's oldest brother.  Joseph Lester was also the name of Elizabeth Lester Magill's oldest brother.    However to prove this I needed a Charles and an Archibald.  If they were born before 1850 and died I was up a creek without a paddle unless I could find family evidence.  It was about this time my mother's cousin finally broke down and sent me copies of the famliy bible.  
There was Charles Andrew Magill first born, and William Archibald the second born.  I knew I had my family.  I had a probate of when Joseph died in 1844 that named a William Magill along with John Davidson as executors.  William turned out to be Joseph's older brother.  Then a "distant" cousin researching Charles Magill in Sullivan, Indiana found the land records that involved the heirs of Charles Magill.  My great grandmother was named with her brothers as heirs of Joseph Lester Magill, son of Charles Magill.  That tied us to the William Magill who came to America through Virginia.  It was all good.  I still wonder what happened that the first two sons died as toddlers, and what happened to Joseph.  Since it was 1844, it could be another Mexican War tragedy, but that will be later research.  Thanks for the opportunity, 
Small-leaved Shamrock (http://www.small-leavedshamrock.blogspot.com/. ) I had fun at the Carnival.

Saturday, June 26, 2010

20th Edition of Carnival of Irish Heritage and Culture 'I Speak From Experience'

 
The obvious search for our ancestors began with the name. 
On the Hero's and my mom's side of the family there were many Irish names to look for.
This is my entry in Smallest Leaf's 20th Edition of Carnival of Irish Heritage and Culture "I Speak From Experience" 
Smallest Leaf  has so much Irish information and books listed on her blog.  It is wonderful to stop by and browse. Click here to see her blog.
To continue with the subject of the carnival. I will show what I have been doing as I study the Irish in America.  
I started with making a note of all the names I was looking for variants of the names and places the names were found.   For example:  http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~fianna/surname/index.html
MacGiolla ancient of Magill,
Gill
McGill
O'Shaughnessy        
Sandys
FURLONG              Wexford
FURLONG              Wicklow
O'AHERN,               Cork
O'Echtighearn   
Ahern
O'DWYER               Tipperary
Dwyer                       Lemerick
Dyer                          Sligo
O'Breen   
O'Brien
I have toyed with learning Gaelic, but I really haven't gotten that far yet.
Besides knowing the surname, I discovered that the old Irish had a subtle naming pattern.  Most but not all used it.
I have posted on this before, if you will click here, then you can read that post and then click back to return.
Something new I have found, as I have wandered the Texas cemeteries, and looked at the death certificates of the Irish imigrants, is they kept a keen sense of pride in where they came from even though they were proud of their new country.  Usually the place of birth is stated, not only the country, but the county or state they were born in also.
 An excerpt from an Illinois Death Certificate

If there was money enough, their birth country was displayed on their gravestone.  Here is an example of this: 

My Irish quest is really just beginning as I am preparing to leap across the pond to Ireland, where wars have ravaged the records and people have lost their families who left for a far off land.  I have been visiting sites such as Smallest Leaf's  watching how they find records in Ireland, talking to people who have UK experience in searching, and taking the Free course on Irish Research on Family Search.  If you click on Irish Research in the previous sentence, it will take you to the course.
There is something so exciting in searching for families that have been apart for years and reuniting them.  I love genealogy research and have been excited to share how to research and source with the upcoming generation to get them involved in their history to know their ancestors.

Thursday, March 11, 2010

Wearin' O' The Green and St Patrick's Day Tradition

St Patrick's Day has not been a religious holiday for my family.  Rather, I would say it has been one of fun.  "The Wearing of the Green" had a totally mischievous meaning  for our household.
As I grew up, it was a challenge be in green and not be greeted with a pinch on the morning of March 17th.  I have searched the web and can not find a true symbol of why one is pinched.  The only reason I found given is that it started in America as a manner of teasing others.  [Some how leprechauns were incorporated into this in the 1700's.  I wonder about the date given because I just don't think in the 1700's there was a lot of worry about wearing green or finding a shamrock in March in the thirteen colonies.]  When I married, the tradition continued.  Sometimes with consequences when I got over zealous and took advantage of the Hero.  Has anyone heard of being tickled to death after being chased around the house.  Grave consequences.


I did develop a great appreciation for St Patrick as I studied about him while growing up.  I really do not like snakes.  I have a phobia of snakes.  To think that there was even a possibility that he actually drove the snakes from Ireland makes me love him.  The National Geographic wants to say that it is just because of  Ireland being an island.  I don't know, there are snakes on many islands in the world.  I think St Patrick did a miracle for the island.  Just my thought.

I know that St Patrick himself did not start out as native born of Ireland, but he developed a deep love of the people and island.  I have empathy with this. I have a little Irish heritage through the Magill Family, but I have a huge love of the culture, the people and their ability to persevere in the face of adversity and to have fun with legends and myths.  I appreciate the love that those who immigrated to America kept for their heritage, although they did appear to be clannish in their thoughts. 

We continue to have fun with St Patrick's day in our family and I have made a collage of the different clothing through the years we have worn to commemorate the holiday.